Say hello to Strong, Intelligent Women Choosing Equality and Freedom Instead of Religion. This is a Facebook Group, and their “about” page says the following:
Our Movement welcomes both men and women who are dedicated to supporting all the strong, empowered, courageous, proud, self-respecting and intelligent women who have chosen equality and freedom instead of religion. Whether you are already that kind of person or long to be. We will expose the current and recorded history of deceit, sexism and extreme wrongdoings of most religions. We will show the differences between our beliefs of love, peace, equality and freedom as opposed to religious misogyny, oppression, repression, ownership, fear, guilt, shame, control, sexism, abuse, degradation, sexual abuse, exploitation, subjugation, dehumanization, immoralness, totalitarianism and violence toward women. We will begin a movement of mothers to protect our children from the religious indoctrination (brainwashing) cycle of our children and move all of humanity forward!
We are a new Feminist Movement about freedom and equality that is not scared to address the deniers of those rights. We don’t just oppose inequality, repression, and oppression; we fight the causes of it. We are not scared to name religion as this cause and we are not afraid to expose them for who they really are and what they really do, no matter how society and government tries to conceal the truth and protect them. Religions greatly influence and shape societies. The proof has been recorded by history and the fraudulent commands from fictional gods that dictate such inequality, repression, and oppression (and much more!) that still dwell on the pages of their bronze-age scriptures. It is historic, it is in writing and it is undeniable.
Very few, if any of the current women’s organizations have the courage to speak these truths, in fear of losing members. This is what sets us apart.
ALL people are EQUAL with unalienable rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. ALL people deserve EQUAL civil and human rights. Equality is everyone’s issue. We are anti-sexist. We are about ending sexism and stereotypes of ALL people.
*By “religion” we mean the organized abrahamic religions (christianity, islam and judaism) and hinduism.
In theory, this sounds like a great group, against repression, pro feminist, and treats everyone with equality.
Unless you’re fat.
This morning, someone linked me to a photo on their page that I found offensive. Take a look.
It’s an old pic, back from the gay backlash against Chick-fil-A and their anti gay stance. I’ve seen it before, and found it offensive then. Despite being offended, I supported the gay community in their efforts to boycott Dan Cathay’s restaurant’s. As I did so, I pointed out to the gay community that the picture was offensive to many, myself included.
I suppose the person who runs the Facebook page didn’t get the memo, since not only did she post the pic, but then began to “defend” the posting, despite requests from both the fat community and the LGBT community to remove the pic. I weighed in on the matter, along with some friends of mine who pointed out that marginalizing another group to help your own cause is not the best way to go. I explained that everyone who had responded “SAW” that this was offensive, even Stevie Wonder (a blind man) could see it was offensive.
Her response to me (since deleted)?
You’re offending blind people…
Really? Confronted with messages from well over 100 people, many of who were supporters of the page prior to the publishing of the photo. Again, a response from the page administrator:
“Many people say that obesity is genetic. Eating fried chicken daily, can make you obese. These are 100% truthful but secondary points of the meme. The main point is hypocrisy. Millions of people who subscribe to those points, deny the empirical evidence of genetically gay people. A large portion of these people are Christians who actively promote and eat at that restaurant, because it donates to official LGBT hate organizations. Is the issue that the person in the pic, has a weight issue? Should such people’s pics, be banned from the media and public display? Isn’t that a prejudice? This meme has very little to do with weight and isn’t the point. I have had many complaints from overweight people for not posting enough pics of overweight people. No matter what we post, someone is ready to be offended and complain. We received racism complaints for a pic yesterday, simply because black people were in it. People can try their best to twist or invent bogus intentions of our postings but it will not change the obvious real messages. People may not like some pics but none of them will be removed unless they can be proven false. We will never censor facts for feelings.”
So, what about YOUR hypocrisy? You don’t think obesity can be genetic, the way gay men & women are predisposed to be? Who are you attacking here? Christians? Fat people? Fat Christians? Here’s a news flash for ya, genius………there are many LGBT folks that ARE Christian, with their only issue being how the various Christian Churches approach THEM. So, if your real message is that you have an issue with Chik-fil-A, wouldn’t it have been more on point (and far less offensive) to simply point out THEIR racism for what it is?
FACT – You didn’t care about the fat people offended by the pic. In your estimation, they’re just collateral damage, right? Your other issue is more important. Another clue for you. LOTS of LGBT people are fat, or didn’t you notice? If not, I’d be happy to introduce you to some of my friends.
FACT – The page administrator has now banned me (and many others) from posting on the page, and has deleted many of the comments indicating that the pic was offensive. I felt like I was part of a religious cleansing. I’ve run pages, groups, and forums and have NEVER deleted a comment, even when it attacked me personally. While I realize that it’s the administrator’s page, I would think it’s kinda tough to promote your page when you’re banning detractors rather than facing their questions and issues head on.
By the way, your FACT about “Eating fried chicken daily, can make you obese” is off as well. I (and I’m pretty sure some of my readers do as well) know many people who eat fried chicken daily, and aren’t obese.
For the page administrator, I’m going to quote something from part of your page by George Clooney:
At some point in time, gay marriage won’t be an issue, and everyone who stood against this civil right will look as outdated as George Wallace standing on the school steps keeping James Hood from entering the University of Alabama because he was black.
Substitute the word obesity for “gay marriage”. I’m afraid the person running the page is a walking, talking anachronism that is out of step with their own supporters, which is a shame because it’s a just cause.
I urge my readers to use the link above to go to the page, and let the page administrator know your feelings. I’m a supporter of LGBT rights, I just don’t want them to be at the expense of someone else. Comprende?
The administrator of the Facebook page has now added a photo that seemingly has nothing to do with LGBT, and posted the following meme on the page:
The “supporters” are now turning on the admin for giving in to the many people who called them out for their own hypocrisy by posting the first meme. I almost feel bad for them, as they’re backpedaling, and losing their constituency at the same time. They’ve made a point of saying that this pic is by no means an apology. However, IF you in fact support people of all shapes & sizes, an oppose prejudice, racism, bigotry, shaming, stereotyping marginalization and hypocrisy, you would allow the 150 plus people you banned from your page to return, make an announcement that you’ve done so, and take the pic that started all of this down. Only then will you be able to make the claims stated in your meme….Oh, by the way, those 150+ are FAR MORE PASSIONATE about causes than the sheep presently on your page. You may want to think about that for the future.
Interestingly enough, the administrator of the page has posted a link to my blog, sort of like a badge of honor that I’m somehow promoting them. I guess those who subscribe to the “even bad press is still good press” theory of promotion will ignore the fact that they come off insane by doing so. INTERESTINGLY enough, despite the fact that there are nearly 40,000 page likes for the Facebook page, not one person has hit my blog page from that link, leading me to believe that most of the people who like that page like it in theory, not in practice, since they likely don’t read all the posts there, which still gives me hope. It also indicates to me that I probably have more true readers than they do,
I would invite the administrator of the page to a debate on this topic alone. The funny thing is, it seems like I agree with many of the other things put on that page, but somehow they’re so off the mark with regard to this particular issue that I have to question the sincerity of every other post that’s made there.
How about it, admin? I’m not gay or fat, bu I know when something if grossly wrong. Come over here and debate my points, if you truly believe in what you’re saying, or you can ride my crest influence, as my readers are hitting your Facebook page, knowing that you’re a walking contradiction.
Also, one of the pages supporters posted the following comment on the page concerning this photo, and the refusal to remove it:
“You have received feedback from many folks requesting removal of the meme, illustrating how it is interpreted and making people feel, how it is negatively affecting your stance and group as a whole. And the response you choose is to NOT take this as a growing/learning opportunity, a chance to evolve in your activism and viewpoints, and unite with other groups of oppressed individuals for support. You instead choose to defend yourself for displaying of the same indefensible, hurtful behavior you accuse republicans, conservatives, christians, and other homophobes of. Please take responsibility and accept what so many smart, strong, sensible co-activists have tried to teach you about this meme being an offensive mistake and preserve what is left of the integrity of your page by removing it and being the bigger person and issuing an apology.”
Somehow, I just don’t think that will ever happen, given the closed mindedness of the page administrator, and their obviously HUGE ego.