Let me apologize in advance for this particular blog not being about size acceptance. If anyone is offended by strong language, please skip this blog.
Most of you readers know that I had taken a sabbatical from posting in forums for about 18 months, and withdrawing from BBW and fat related events during that time. It was a cleansing time for me, and while blogging about it, I came to the realization that certain parts of the community were not attractive to me, but I implicitly tolerated those parts over the years, because I thought that a more unified community could be reached, and that it would be better to get along for the good of all of those involved.
As my sense of perspective returned, I likened those parts of the community to being a cesspool, and that for my own sanity, I would avoid, or at least limit my involvement in those areas. Posting in some of the forums were included, even the place that used to be a personal haven for me, where I cut my teeth in learning to understand my attraction to fat women, sharing dialogue with other men who felt the same, talking with fat women, and learning what was important to THEM, and not making it just about my own personal experiences.
Every now and then however, you have to check into the cesspool just to smell how shitty is was, and how you don’t want any of that shit to rub off on you anymore. Today was one of those days.
It actually started a couple of days ago, in a thread started by troll who mentioned that Susanne Eman (formerly known as Celestial Bombshell) has embarked on a weight loss journey, after proclaiming to the media just several months ago that she intended to become the fattest person in the world (did you hear that, Donna Simpson???). Of course the rest of the trolls jumped on the bandwagon, with the following pearls of wisdom:
i…..i’m utterly disgusted with her right now……..
I think she’ll be back on Dr. Phil soon, they mentioned her in a promo.
She’s famous for being fat and she’s the opposite of the big woman who hides herself away. I give her props for that.
It’s her choice to be in the spotlight, and she’s kind of charismatic in her way. Talk shows love her.
I think she should rather focus on posting pics than frighten up the media…
I’ve already given my opinion on Ms. Eman and her antics. For those of you who haven’t read my blog about it, you can find the link here: https://thenatural54.wordpress.com/2011/09/25/fallout/.
I’ve also posted about the dangers of having people like this represent for all fat people when they make TV appearances, and what it does for size acceptance in a blog called “No One Speaks For Me”. I made an honest attempt to respond in this thread, since I felt that the alternative view had yet to be presented. One woman in particular took exception to my blog, though she never actually addressed the points that my blog raised. I make it a point of avoiding people who won’t actually address points raised, since I end up having a one sided conversation.
Evidently however, this woman reacted negatively to a reactionary post made by another woman, someone I considered a friend, who reacted the way she did to the post because some of the comments made hit home with her personally. I won’t get into the actual dialogue between them, but enter a guy named Nate Pogue
According to Mr. Pogue, he calls himself “King Of FAs”. I have a former friend who might take issue with that, but for now, that’s what he’s calling himself. A few people who also posted in this thread questioned his contributions to the various forums on this website, but I’m not necessarily a believer, so I decided to check and see what he’s posted on this forum in recent days. Here is a small selection of the words of wisdom from the “King of FAs”:
“So who wants to see my penis?”
“All food is a turn-on when watching a sexy gal eat, but chocolate has a special place within my loins.”
“…holy you shit you hot ass bitch” (referring to a BBW web model’s recent photo update)
….”I tend to think with my penis but why can’t my penis acknowledge a good girl via sexual attraction?”
“Where there are eyes, there will be eyes looking at eye candy. If women prefer not to be treated like eye candy, they should stop being so damn good to look at.”
Seems obvious to me (and he openly admits it), that Mr. Pogue thinks with a different head than most of us do. Despite his evident lack of coherent thought and understanding of what size acceptance or anything else that doesn’t stimulate his year round yule log, I attempted to reason with him in this thread, explaining to the best of my abilities why his particular thinking in this thread was erroneous.
I openly admit my mistakes. Reasoning with him was one of them.
I won’t bore everyone with the details, since many of my readers are already in the forum, and can see for yourselves. Anyone who isn’t can message me, and I will provide you with a link to the thread in question. I believe in his simple mind he felt that defending someone who was defending one of his favorite webmodels was chivalrous in nature, and I insinuated to him that he might be white knighting for her. He accused back, claiming that my comments were simply made to defend my friend who was being attacked as well.
Son, I didn’t want to go off on you in the forum, mostly because I didn’t want an infraction, or to get banned from posting there, since I feel that my thoughts still have some value there, especially to younger men coming into the fat community, looking for answers.
I will go off on you here though, just as I have with other guys claiming to be FAs, when in fact they do more damage to size acceptance and fat people in general by opening their mouths or typing on their little keyboard. Enjoy your little 15 minutes of fame, boy.
First, let me start with the “white knighting” you’ve accused me of. White knighters — those men who jump at the chance to defend the virtue of women at every opportunity, no matter if the defense is warranted — are beta males who hope their stirring gallantry will get them into women’s panties. I’ve been fortunate enough to have been in some great relationships with fat women over the years, women you could only dream about, based on your comments to most of the web models. A couple of them HAVE been webmodels. I have no need to white knight for anyone. I stopped that practice while you were still in your daddy’s balls.
Second, having been with webmodels over the years, let me clue you in. They laugh at people like you in a mocking way. You shower them with compliments in their picture threads, thinking that heaping praise on them will make them like you. IT DOESN’T. They want money from guys like you, they end up in relationships with mature (not in age, in responsibility and wisdom) men like me. They even complain to guys like me when guys like you try to escalate these comments you make and try to take it to the next level. I’ve had to sit down with little shits like you and explain the facts of life in the fat world countless times during my days running both the NJ Bash and other events I’ve attended elsewhere. One of the reasons I stopped promoting size positive events is so that I don’t have to deal with fucking jarheads like you any more.
I’m pretty sure that your day was made, making fun of my friends, people who I’ve been close to for years, some who I am friends with on Facebook and in real life. And while some of those friendships have waned, their coherent thoughts (as opposed to your yammering) still resonate in my life, since they harken to times when we discussed issues based on the merits of the issues themselves, rather than white knighting, or refusing to acknowledge that you might be wrong…….
No, that would be too difficult.
One of my friends said it best in her response to Mr. Pogue:
I’m sorry you feel you are losing so much in life that you have to win at something wrong so bad that you have no empathy for people this could affect.
Truth be known, I don’t feel sorry for you, I despise you, you waste of space. If there was a way for me to return you to your mommy’s womb so she had a chance to start over again, I would take the chance, though I doubt your mom deserves that. Your lack of thought in all you do screams to me that I would never want to be fucking identified not only as the FA you claim to be the king of, and makes me be embarrassed of my gender.
There may come a time where I again attend size positive events. I would strongly urge you to avoid me at all costs if you see me, otherwise it’s going to be really difficult for you to troll the fat women with my foot in your ass.
Go find a different sandbox to play in, motherfucker. While I don’t care about posting there much anymore, I have friends who do, and your presence makes them want to puke, knowing there are people like you in the world.
And now Mr. Pogue, you have your 15 minutes of fame, at least to the several thousand people a week who read my blogs. You’re not as famous as Susanne Eman, but this will have to do for now.